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Updated:04/17/24 02:32 PM
Created:11/24/15 12:42 AM
Monthly downloads:111,763
Total downloads:4,063,143
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Tamriel Trade Centre  Updated less than 3 days ago!  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)
Version: 4.18.182.65294
by: cyxui [More]
The addon for http://tamrieltradecentre.com/

TTC needs localization help! Current plans is to translate for all official languages (German, French and Japanese). If you are willing to help with the translation please go to google sheet (https://goo.gl/q6xBPq) and fill in the German/French/Japanese Translation Columns as much as you could. Do remember to make a copy in case of conflicts or trolls.. cough cough...


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Dependencies:
LibCustomMenu
LibAddonMenu-2.0

3rd party optional plugins (if you need the additional functionality):
KelaPadUI for Gamepad mode
AdvancedFilters for TTC
TamrielTradeCentreCompanion

For Mac users and people whos afraid of exe file. Webclient (beta) is available online. Go to http://tamrieltradecentre.com/ and select your region. Click on Addon -> Webclient and follow the instructions


LuaSerializer is now on GitHub https://github.com/alt22247/LuaSerializer

Global trade search tool needs YOUR help.

By running our addon and client. Your guild listings as well as any item you seen by using guild store search function will be automatically upload to the site for other people to search and browse. The collected data will also be used to generate price info for everyone~

If you want to contribute more to the community or if you wish to help boosting up your guild's sale by uploading an entire guild's listings, you are more than welcome to do so!

Here are some screen shoots of the site, addon and client












Install Instruction:

1. Download and unzip the files under ESO addon folder (default is Documents\Elder Scrolls Online\live\AddOns) Or you can install it with Minion
2. When you are playing ESO, run the client executable (client.exe) under Client folder
3. Enjoy the game


In game API
1. To get TTC's price info simply do TamrielTradeCentrePrice:GetPriceInfo(itemLink)
This will return a TamrielTradeCentre_PriceInfo Object
Code:
{
       Avg,
       Max,
       Min,
       EntryCount, --# of listings
       AmountCount, --total # of items
       SuggestedPrice --suggested price low. Suggested high = SuggestedPrice * 1.25
}
2. To get TTC's internal item information (various internal Ids)
TamrielTradeCentre_ItemInfo:New(itemLink)

Q:How does this addon work?
The addon collects all the item listings that you seen in the guild store and uploads them to the site. The site then uses all the data collected by all players to generate price info for everyone.
You can also use the website to search for the location of an item using way better filter than the default Guild store GUI. But it is not guarantee the item is still there since low price items tends to get sold fast. You will have to use your own judgment based on the last seen column to predict whether its still available.

Q:How is the suggested price calculated?
1. Remove outliers
2. AVG(price of the lowest 30% items) * 0.8

Q:Whats the difference between average/suggested price vs sales average?
Average/suggested price are calculated using listing data while sales average is calculated using actual sales data. Both listing and sales data are collected from all TTC users across all guilds.

Q: How fresh is the pricing data?
Very fresh! Naw im kidding, its based on Data from yesterday

Q: How big is TTC
It uses around 6mb of RAM for pricing info and around 20mb at most for entries you have seen.



Detailed Instruction
FAQ
4.18 Release Log:
1. Added back the price to chat language options
2. Added a steam button in Client's start options
3. Opening a second instance of the client will now bring the running instance to front instead of panic

4.17 Release Log:
1. Fixed an UI error for Spanish client

4.16 Release Log:
1. Adopts to the new guild history API that was introduced in U41
2. Added a slash command /ttc and a button binding to clear data
3. When launch ESO after TTC option is enabled. TTC will now launch ESO and shutdown the current instance if another TTC instance is already running instead of panicking
4. Fixed various NPC names in other locales
5. Localization update
Known issues:
1. Font change that came with U41 broke the unicode encoding. TTC's additional language setting will cause the game to freeze. As a result all language related settings are removed from the settings page until this is fixed.
2. Guild history API is very buggy right now. Sales history data might get impacted because of this.

4.15 Release Log:
1. Temperately disable guild history scanning while I am working on the new API

4.14 Release Log:
1. Fixed an issue causing repeated upload. (Please delete your saved variable file before starting the game if issue persists)
2. Added missing language for client.exe (Spanish + Japanese)

4.13 Release Log:
1. Added sale avg and stats to price info
2. Added Japanese support
3. Removed sold item notification (obsolete 'feature')

4.12 Release Log:
1. Added sale history collection. Data will be used to generate sale average pricing in the future. Size of the data is capped at 1 day or around 10mb whichever is smaller. No calculation or processing is done by the addon. There should be zero performance impact (unless 10mb of RAM is an issue)
2. Optimized guild store history pulling and reading logic

4.11 Release Log:
1. Necrom update
2. Added sorting options for search online
3. NPC name fix for multiple languages

4.10 Release:
1. Fixed wide range of localization issues
2. Added Japanese strings in preparation for JP support

4.9 Release:
1. Added new traders
2. Mass localization update

Website update:
1. Added Spanish localization
2. Chinese item name update
3. Mass localization update

4.8 Release:
1. Added Spanish support

4.7 Release:
1. New traders for High Isle

Client 4.6 Release:
1. Client side change for loading price table based on server region (server side not ready yet)

Client 4.5 Release:
1. Added view price history online button
2. Added Missing NPC names for Russian client

Client 4.4 Release:
1. Deadland update
2. Updated target .net framework to 4.7.2 to prepare for TLS 1.0 deprecation

Client 4.3 Release:
1. Added companion traits
2. Added Blackwood NPC for German, French and Russian client

Client 4.2 Release:
1. Added Blackwood traders

Client 4.1 Release:
Version bump only

Client 4.0 Release:
1. Removed login requirement for personal listings upload
2. Merged personal and auto scanned listings into one instead of treating them differently

Client 3.38 Release:
1. Localization update
2. Dependency version update

Client 3.37 Release:
1. Added Markarth trader
2. Added right click menu to items in CraftBag
3. Added a keybind option to toggle tooltip
4. Fixed NPC name for jaflinna

Client 3.36 Release:
1. Search online button will now apply the language of your ESO client instead of sending you to the English site all the time
2. Reverted the parameter type for the function to retrieve TTC's price info
3. Localization update

Client 3.35 Release:
1. Stonethorn Update
2. Added Search Online button for items

Client 3.34 Release:
1. Updated Russian NPC names

Client 3.33 Release:
1. Greymoor update
2. Added a 5s delay before reading the saved variable file to allow ESO client to finish writting
3. Makes hidding the client after launch a configurable option. Auto hidding caused more confusion than good

Client 3.32 Release:
1. Harrowstorm version bump
2. Fixed an issue causing Lua file parsing to fail on machines with decimal separator not being a dot
3. Hides the client Window after successfully launching ESO client if auto start option is set to Start ESO after Client


Client 3.31 Release:
1. Fixed an issue causing price info to be missing for Deep Winter Charity Writs and New Life Charity Writs (Might take couple days to take effect)
2. Fixed a rare case which might cause master writ upload to fail
3. Only adds the 5px padding to the tooltip if price information is available

Client 3.30 Release:
1. Dragonhold update
2. TTC will no longer bundle libraries just like most other addons. Users will need to manually download the required libraries thru ESOUI or minion. (Required libraries can be found in game by expanding TTC's entry in addon list)

Client 3.29 release:
1. Uses software rendering only mode. Way too many factors could make hardware rendering go wrong.

Client 3.28 release:
1. Fixed multiple UI errors due to new guild store history API

ScaleBreaker kiosk detection will be added in the next release

Client 3.27 release:
1. Fixed an issue causing guild trader location to be null
2. Added additional check to detect config file corruption and attempt to reset it automatically

Client 3.26 Release Notes:

1. Reworked login system to use user's default browser (external) instead of an outdated Internet Explorer(embedded) to comply with the latest security standard (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-native-apps-03)
2. Added logout button

P.S. please make sure your firewall is not blocking loopback IP (localhost) and TTC has sufficient right to bind to it.
Client 3.25 Release Notes:
1. Added Awesome Guild Store hook to display price tooltip when AGS is active
2. No longer adds divider if no price info is available

Client 3.24 Release Notes:
1. Fixed an issue causing scan progress to be reset by AGS's auto search feature
2. Added a safeguard to client's setting file. If the file became corrupted it will be auto removed so that the next run will be able to get thru without error.
3. Added Elsweyr's trader locations
4. Fixed an issue causing last updated string to show up in native client's locale instead of target locale when using price to chat with a different locale than the native one.


Client 3.23 Release Notes:
1. Fixed two compatibility issues with Awesome Guild Store (more to come later)
a) Price not showing in store page when AGS is enabled
b) UI error when trying to purchage item when AGS is enabled
2. Updated the logic for personal listings to be consistant with community scanned ones. Last seen for personal listings will only get updated when user opens the guild store and click on the listings tab or when user lists new item/remove existing item from the store. (Used to be based on user's last login. However ZOS's API seems to skip some entries and thus causing the cached version to be unreliable. Causes more confusion than good to use the login time due to this)
3. Fixed an issue causing price to chat to show up multiple times when the language of the current client's locale is selected
4. Uses sub menu for price to chat when there is more than one language selected
5. Removed the one time guild store scan due to point 2

P.S. due to some backend structure change the saved settings will be reset. Your price data will stay safely since its downloaded from the server.


Client 3.22 Release Notes:
1. Wrathstone API update
2. Store full scan code completely revamped. New scan logic will retry on failure (too many searches). In case of the game force close the store UI TTC will attempt to resume the scan the next time store is opened.
3. Added the ability to do price to chat in different languages regardless of client's locale

Known issue: The new ESO Guild Store UI has a bug which it will not update the UI listings when the search is initiated with API calls. Thus you are going to see the search result panel stay the same thru out the whole scan process.

P.S. New items will be added in batch. Thanks for your patience.

Client 3.21 Release Notes:
1. Fixed a problem causing items to be reupload each time
2. Added traders in Murkmire for none English clients

Client 3.20 Release Notes:
1. Murkmire update

Client 3.19 Release Notes:
1. Fixed a crash caused by empty guild name (manually posted on the site)
2. Updates the message for login button's location

Known Issue: The client will remove manual created posts on the site. This will be fixed on the server side in the future.

Client 3.18 Release Notes:
1. Fixed a NullReference error caused by new login flow
2. Updates msg relates to personal listing to avoid confusion

Client 3.17 Release Notes:
1. Added multi account support. Players with multiple ESO account on the same machine will be able to use the client without issues now.
2. Moved client settings into addon settings
3. Fixed an issue causing client not initializing until UI loads
4. Replaced old Lua serializer with new strong typed one (Lua serializer will be available on GitHub soon)

Client 3.16 Release Notes:
Version bump.

Client 3.15 Release Notes:
1. Attempt to fix an app crash problem which some windows 10 users are experiencing
2. Localization updates

Client 3.14 Release Notes:
1. Summerset update
2. Only keeps auto scanned record for 6 hours instead of 24 hours to increase data freshness

Client 3.13 Release Notes:
1. Completely separates the storage space for NA and EU server. This should prevent EU listings get posted to NA site or wise versa.

Client 3.12 Release Notes:
1. Fixed a crash caused by Masterwrit info
2. Fixed a bug causing alchemy writ's required potion attribute not showing up.

Client 3.11 Release Notes:
1. Dragon Bones & Update 17 version bump
2. Upgraded LibAddonMenu to r25
3. Makes the error msg which alerts user about current guild does not own a kiosk a popup instead of a chat msg since the chat window is hidden when guild store is open
4. Auto hides the client's window when using the "start with windows" option
5. other small fixes

Client 3.10 Release Notes:
1. Uses file lock instead of Mutex since Avast hates Mutex after fall creator's update. TTC should be able to live happily with Avast again (Tested on Win 10 fall creator and Win 7 latest with Avast Free)
2. Small change to prepare for upcoming web client.

Client 3.9 Release Notes:
1. Added messages informing users when TTC is blocked by anti-virus instead of crashing right away
2. TTC will no longer add tooltip messages to item panel if there is no pricing information available

Client 3.8 Release Notes:
1. Enables CWC traders scanning for French, German and Russian clients

Client 3.7 Release Notes:
1. Clockwork city update (Note: French, German and Russian clients will not be able to scan clockwork city's trader until the localized NPC names are filled in the google sheet)

Client 3.6 Release Notes:
1. Store item will no longer get uploaded to the server if players attempts to buy it (even if player did not hit confirm on the prompt). This should further reduce the cases where the item is gone by the time one walks to the location.

Client 3.5 Release Notes:
1. Russian and Chinese localization
2. Fixed a problem causing master writ to have always show as no price info on German and French client
3. Enables upload for German/French/Russian/Chinese clients
4. New trader location algorithm should work on all localized ESO client now

Client 3.4 Release Notes:
1. Horn of the reach update
2. New algorithm to determine trader location. Should resolve all potential "this guild does not own a kiosk" errors caused by ZOS typo/inconsistent description. In the worse case scenario where the TTC is unable to detect the trader when player opened guild store interface from the bank NPC, the new algorithm will allow the player to scan by going to the actual trader NPC.
3. Solved all problem with localized clients, uploading is expected to be available for German/French players after the new addon strings are translated

Client 3.3 Release Notes:
Fixed an issue that was blocking Bal Foyen and Vivec city outlaws refuge traders' scan

Client 3.2 Release Notes:
1. Fixed an issue causing TTC to incorrectly parse potion's attribute when its a tri stat potion

Client 3.1 Release Notes:
1. Fixed an error during startup caused by SavedVarUpgrade.lua

Client 3.0 Release Notes:
1. German and French client beta. Enables in game price related operations while uploading is
disabled.
2. Fixed an issue causing in game displaying price updated 1 day ago while client is saying its up to date
3. Fixed an issue causing Deshaan Tal'deic trader to be not scannable
4. various other fixes

Client 2.35 Release Notes:
1. Added Vvardenfell trader locations

Client 2.34 Release Notes:
1. Morrowind updates
2. Centralized strings for localization

Client 2.33 Release Notes:
1. Updated NA's coordinator's iD
2. Fixed the issue causing launch ESO after client option not working with steam short cut.

Client 2.32 Release Notes:
1. Added option to auto start the client in silent mode with Windows or Launch ESO after the client (Which you can just replace the ESO's short cut with TTC client's short cut and it will run both)
2. Bug fixes and server related changes

Client 2.31 Release Notes:
1. Fixed an issue which causes some items to be removed and reposted every time Client starts
2. Fixed master writ's voucher reward amount calculation. Pricing for master writ might be unavailable for one day due to this change.
3. Uses TextBox instead of TextBlock for client's message display for copy paste support
Website Update:
1. Fixed master writ's voucher reward amount calculation. Wrong amount should diminish overtime.
2. Added Blacksmith/Clothing/Woodworking master writ's set, style, and trait information
3. Fixed an issue that sets Level to Level - 50 when you try to post trade manually

Client 2.30 Release Notes:
1. Fixed an issue which causes post trade to fail consistantly
2. Fixed a rare crash issue caused by corrupted config file resulted from unexpected Windows shutdown
3. Fixed an issue which causes TTC to report the current guild doesnt own a kiosk in Orsinium
4. Auto fix broken IDs caused by the massive name change that comes with Homestead update
5. Fixed an issue which causes client settings not get saved
New:
Support master writ price aggregation based on master writ detail instead of for all writs
Website Update:
1. Added amount filter in advanced search
2. Added master writ reward voucher filter in advanced search
3. Added master writ detail display
4. Database optimization
5. Added bunch new discovered furnitures into Database
6. Fixed many broken icons

2.29 change note:
1. Fixes a problem where the client wont start and says it is not in the original location. The problem is due to client not being able to detect server region (NA/EU).
A fallback mechanism is in place and should have a better error message when it fails
2. Fixes the problem of TTC not being able to detect potion/poison's effect due to description change


2.28 release note:
New:
1. Home stead API change
2. Automatically detects Server region instead of having users to set it themselves to prevent uploading items to the wrong server region
3. Automatically updates price table once 12 hours for people that keep the client running overnight
Bug fixes:
1. Fixes the issue which is causing client/server list out of sync and leave out dated trade listings not get cleaned up
2. Fixes the issue of client not automatically updates the guild's kiosk after it is changed
3. Adds a message to warn users about outdated price table
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Unread 04/02/21, 09:09 PM  
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Another database update request....

Please add the new Imperial Champion style pages from the anniversary event.

Thanks for all you do!
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I have made millions of gold at my obscure social guild's trader that I know I never would have if people had to randomly find us and search stores one at a time for items they need, all across Tamriel. So, many thanks!

EDIT: The rest of this post was about maybe adding a value-over-time feature, like a graph on item tooltips or the website to see how values fluctuate over time (30-90 days?). However the main reason I was asking about it was probably in response to normal short term volatility and not any large scale market manipulation, so file this in the "would be nice" category.
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Originally Posted by wolfeng_
Originally Posted by cyxui
Right now theres no way to do that. found it quite complicated to implement because different people have different preference when it comes to auto pricing. some use lowest suggested some use highest suggested some use the average and some use their own special formulas ....
I figured the reply would be something like this.
Is it possible to add only the auto-use of the lowest suggested price? The way I see it people that want to automate this aren't really looking for maximum profit.

But maybe running a poll to see what others think could help?
Or put an option to choose which price to use/none?
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Originally Posted by cyxui
Originally Posted by Thrasher
Would it posible to add the new items from the jester's festival to the website database?
- Regal Regalia style pages
- Mirth Shard
Done
Thank you very much!
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Originally Posted by cyxui
Right now theres no way to do that. found it quite complicated to implement because different people have different preference when it comes to auto pricing. some use lowest suggested some use highest suggested some use the average and some use their own special formulas ....
I figured the reply would be something like this.
Is it possible to add only the auto-use of the lowest suggested price? The way I see it people that want to automate this aren't really looking for maximum profit.

But maybe running a poll to see what others think could help?
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Originally Posted by Thrasher
Would it posible to add the new items from the jester's festival to the website database?
- Regal Regalia style pages
- Mirth Shard
Done
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Originally Posted by wolfeng_
I love the addon so far, but my only issue is that I can't find a way to automatically use the suggested price when listing items on the guild store.
Is it all possible to do this?
Right now theres no way to do that. found it quite complicated to implement because different people have different preference when it comes to auto pricing. some use lowest suggested some use highest suggested some use the average and some use their own special formulas ....
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Re: Flow of Data Question

Originally Posted by Simon Belmont
Does this addon only direct ESO's in-game data to the TTC website? Or, does this addon also allow the player to utilize data from the TTC website, via the in-game addon's interface (without the need to go to the website)? I mean, other than helping the ESO community with data collection, does the addon offer the player any usable features?
Yes. The collected data will be used to calculate price suggestions and any one running the addon will be able to see this in game.
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Originally Posted by jayman10000
The instructions says to visit NPC banker, and choose Guild Store and that then a popup should come up asking me to wait. No such popup comes; however I can press "scan all listings" in lower left corner of screen, whereby the scanning begins.

Does someone know how long it takes for scannings to appear on the webpage? I scanned my guild and did the /reloadui both 10 and 20 min ago, but it is still only showing my listings from when I did a scan 2 hours ago.
Where did you find the instruction to visit banker? I must have forgot to remove it from the instruction. Its obsolete.

scanning should appear in 5min in most cases.
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Would it posible to add the new items from the jester's festival to the website database?
- Regal Regalia style pages
- Mirth Shard
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I love the addon so far, but my only issue is that I can't find a way to automatically use the suggested price when listing items on the guild store.
Is it all possible to do this?
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Question Flow of Data Question

Does this addon only direct ESO's in-game data to the TTC website? Or, does this addon also allow the player to utilize data from the TTC website, via the in-game addon's interface (without the need to go to the website)? I mean, other than helping the ESO community with data collection, does the addon offer the player any usable features?
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The instructions says to visit NPC banker, and choose Guild Store and that then a popup should come up asking me to wait. No such popup comes; however I can press "scan all listings" in lower left corner of screen, whereby the scanning begins.

Does someone know how long it takes for scannings to appear on the webpage? I scanned my guild and did the /reloadui both 10 and 20 min ago, but it is still only showing my listings from when I did a scan 2 hours ago.
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Re: Export of TTC data

Originally Posted by TheCyberSniper
Hello!

I was wondering what the best way is to get the collected price data? It seems data exists in what I believe is a Lua Table in ItemLookUpTable_EN file along with the PriceTable file, but I am unfortunately not familiar with LUA and I am not sure how to translate that into something like JSON - or if there are other sources for the data, either locally or on the web.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
Here are two lua serializers to convert lua into c#/js table

https://github.com/alt22247/LuaSerializer
https://github.com/alt22247/LuaSerializer.js

hope that helps
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Re: Re: Re: Mean vs. Median

Originally Posted by Caaraamon
Originally Posted by Sharlikran
Originally Posted by Caaraamon
I'm no statistician, but I have to admit some curiosity as to why the addon uses average price as opposed to median price.

I vaguely recall being told that median is less skewed by severe outliers, which seems to be a favored tactic for some of the more blatant attempts at market manipulation.
There are papers (I am told) written on wow AH theory using statistical data to prove all kinds of thing by undergraduate students or people with a PhD. I only know because I recently went to a discord dedicated to statistics.

Those people were very assertive and blatantly... I can't think of a good word that I could put in the forums. Simply put they have a great deal of knowledge and someone with zero knowledge they remind you that statistics has a purpose.

To them nothing should ever ever ever ever ever ever be removed from a data set for any reason whatsoever unless you can mathematically prove why it should be removed. To them if you cannot articulate why with mathematical proof you don't know what you're talking about and you shouldn't be doing it.

Since this is a game and there's an intended purpose for showing a price using the average or the mean or the median or trimming an outlier I just do it anyway. I'm not trying to solve real-world problems.

However as much statistics as I have used to try and help with people that skew prices, it simply will not stop it.

What is the saddest thing to me though is that if the people wanting the price to go up would simply put a legitimate sale up for the item and sell it at the price they want the price would trend upward naturally.

Take for example all of the jewelry crafting things like chromium grains. It would be rare if not nonexistent that someone would put up a price that isn't going to be something they're going to sell it for.

So if you look at a scatter plot for jewelry crafting items everything trends up nicely over 90 days or however many days you are viewing.

The problem is people have an intention for posting those ridiculous prices. They might just want people to undersell so they can buy it cheap and sell it for more later. They could just want to make a bunch of money and they want everybody to think it's more valuable than it is. I could go on and on.

I spent many weeks trying to figure things out and I can honestly say that really isn't much you can do.
I apologize if I'm teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, but I've been thinking about this recently.

The issue is that market manipulation of rare items is very easy with TTC using average:

For example, assume you have 10 items selling for 10k each. If you get ahold of 2 of them, post one for 500k (which you would pay 5k to post), the average selling price shows up as around 54.4k. For the cost of 5k, you've raised the perceived market price by almost 45k which you can then sell your second item for. And if you turn off synching personal sales, you might even be able to retrieve it and sell the first item too, or just do it with one item.

The frequency of times I see the max price being 10, 20, or even more times the average leads me to believe this is not uncommon. And the reverse of posting ultra-low to drop the price just isn't practical for a whole variety of reasons.

It seems to me like using a median price would severely limit the ability to do this.

Edit: I know the suggested price fixes many of these issues, but based on people posting price checks in chat, a ton of people don't have it enabled.
You are right on point on the last note. Suggested price already solved all the issue you mentioned and its the ideal figure to be looked at. However people are probably scared of things that they are not familiar with. If you go around and ask people if they know what median is. I believe more than half of them will tell you no and those people will still prefer an average instead. So if you do know statistics then use suggested price. if you are not into stats and want to stick with the old fashion average then....(eventhough i really want to get rid of it. i guess its there to stay).
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