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Updated:05/25/15 03:47 AM
Created:05/25/15 03:47 AM
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Harven's Subtitle Menu Fix
Version: 1.4f
by: manavortex [More]
This is a tweak of Harven's Subtitles - since I enjoy every minute of OCD I was constantly weirded out by this addon having an own entry under "Add-Ons" and not being in the menu like everything else. So I changed that, since I do use this addon a lot.
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Unread 04/05/20, 12:11 PM  
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I think this addon is not needed anymore.
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Unread 05/27/15, 06:05 PM  
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btw Harven still aroun he can help
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Unread 05/27/15, 06:03 PM  
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Originally Posted by QuadroTony
That addon is broken and doesn't do anything but kick up errors. So yeah...maybe do some research there next time little buddy before firing off.

Now if manavortex can also fix the menu layout of Harven's House Hunter I'd be very grateful (hint hint).
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Unread 05/27/15, 01:12 PM  
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@manavortex

Heh. I did this in my own local version of Harven's, as this is the only Harven addon I use any more. I don't know what Harven's dealio is with needing his own menu library, honestly. It seems genuinely, hugely inconsiderate for the vast majority of players out there.

As a coder, I could honestly understand rewriting an addon or making a version of a library that's more efficient. Something that wouldn't affect the user, basically. So, if, say LibGPS (as a random example) was inefficient, I could accept someone trying to pitch a LibFindMe with their own addon. This doesn't harm the everyday addon user in any way.

This is the distinction we have to make as coders, I think. Yes? We can do things that inconvenience each other, sometimes, and we'll figure it out. This occurs on the micro-level which the user never sees or experiments with. When we effect the macro-level though and our ego-stroking or whatnot makes the game more difficult for them to use, we're doing something wrong, and we should step back and consider our choices.

The thing is is that if an addon author does something that inconveniences the player, it makes the community look bad. If you hadn't done this, I might've. So props to you.

I don't think Harven's a bad person, or that they have any bad motivations. I just think that they haven't thought this through thoroughly. I suspect that Harven has a more extroverted personality so he or she doesn't realise how his or her choices can affect the players. If something is affecting players (the users) who actually download addons from a site like ESOUI, it's our job to fix it. Otherwise it does reflect badly to them upon the whole of the community site.

It's the exact reason I created BugCatcher.

Then again, this could all be faux nobility and I have my head too far up my arse to realise. But I actually care about people and the credibility of the community, so this has been stewing at the back of my mind for quite some time.

@QuadroTony

So should you. That 'addon' is notoriously buggy. The comments are filled with people saying it just doesn't work. Basically, it's uselesss. Installing it is essentially just installing bugs and a slight resource loss with nothing gained from it. And Harven has little interest in fixing it.
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