Help With Item Name Changes

[dopiate]

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[merlight]

Are those words ingame? I'm asking because "ashs", "beechs", "birchs" seem to be missing an "e". Not sure about flax, but I'd say that one as well.

Edit: I still think "3 lumps of sanded birch" would be better

[Garkin]

It looks like results from zo_strformat("<<2[1/$d]>> <<tm:1>>", itemLink, count) -this will try to automatically convert item name to plural if count is greater then 1.

From EsoStrings:
"[eng] You bought <<2[1/$d]>> <<tm:1>> for <<3>>.", -- SI_BUY_RECEIPT_MONEY
"[eng] You sold <<2[1/$d]>> <<tm:1>> for <<3>>.", -- SI_SELL_RECEIPT_MONEY

[merlight]

I think you're misinterpreting it. Characters beyond the caret ^ are attributes of the word/expression for zo_strformat, so that it uses the proper form. Thus "sanded beech^ns" is not "sanded beech^n"s, it's "sanded beech" with attributes 'n' (neuter gender) and 's' (not described in that post, maybe it means "don't append s for plural").

zo_strformat("<<2[1/$d]>> <<tm:1>>", "sanded beech^ns", 5)
-- 5 Sanded Beech

[dopiate]

Originally Posted by merlight I think you're misinterpreting it. Characters beyond the caret ^ are attributes of the word/expression for zo_strformat, so that it uses the proper form. Thus "sanded beech^ns" is not "sanded beech^n"s, it's "sanded beech" with attributes 'n' (neuter gender) and 's' (not described in that post, maybe it means "don't append s for plural"). zo_strformat("<<2[1/$d]>> <<tm:1>>", "sanded beech^ns", 5) -- 5 Sanded Beech

I am talking strictly for how my addon handles data :-)

I do understand the item link string but I wrote a .Net routine more than a year ago and it handled that string just fine until I started seeing plurals in my offline database.

So I now had to address new incoming data and format it the old way and I used the ^ns as my way of knowing.

Keep in mind I'm parsing saved variables and then putting all of that data into a .NET database and the GUI is the viewer.

What I am saying should not be misinterpreted to be any insight into LUA or any in game code. For me the new format appended s to multiples and I had to deal with existing saved data with that already attached and format incoming data to match.

It's for my code in .NET specifically so when you do a drop down on items you don't see cotton and cottons.

I had to make code changes for consistency and for incoming new data the ^ns is actually a big help.

I appreciate you correcting me but I should have been more specific. This affects users of my program only and I was looking for more items so I could put that out with the release.

I just uploaded it now so to users of GSA it will make sense and fix any data inconsistency.

I can tell you with 100% certainty that ^ns does mean an item is multiples of that item. I have seen it nowhere else and it works for me perfectly. It seems to only apply to raw materials for crafting.

It seems I may have discovered what s is used for by accident but now you have confirmation. It's not on Garkins list but it should be now. After working on this for the last two days I can tell you it means an item is a multiple stack. So far that is everything on this list.

-d

[merlight]

Originally Posted by dopiate I am talking strictly for how my addon handles data :-) I do understand the item link string but I wrote a .Net routine more than a year ago and it handled that string just fine until I started seeing plurals in my offline database.

You're not seeing plurals. You're seeing what's probably the result of wrongly removing "^n" and leaving the trailing "s" in place. Why not just use zo_strformat, you wouldn't even notice they changed something had you used that before saving the strings.

Originally Posted by dopiate I can tell you with 100% certainty that ^ns does mean an item is multiples of that item. I have seen it nowhere else and it works for me perfectly. It seems to only apply to raw materials for crafting.

I've just split a stack of sanded maple in my bank:
slot 204 ... 21 Sanded Maple ... GetItemLink(2, 204) returns "sanded maple^ns"
slot 236 ... 1 Sanded Maple ... GetItemLink(2, 236) returns "sanded maple^ns"

Item links don't carry information about quantity.


edit: tried it with and without the 's' flag out of curiosity:

zo_strformat("<<2[1/$d]>> <<tm:1>>", "sanded maple^ns", 5)
-- 5 Sanded Maple
 
zo_strformat("<<2[1/$d]>> <<tm:1>>", "sanded maple^n", 5)
-- 5 Sanded Maples

[dopiate]

Originally Posted by merlight You're not seeing plurals. You're seeing what's probably the result of wrongly removing "^n" and leaving the trailing "s" in place. Why not just use zo_strformat, you wouldn't even notice they changed something had you used that before saving the strings.

I wrote this program a year ago. Its .NET not LUA and I don't even generate the data anymore, I threw all in with Master Merchant.

What good would changing my working code?

Again, I'm not writing 1 line of LUA, just parsing it.

Originally Posted by merlight Item links don't carry information about quantity.

OK, I was wrong about it's use. As I said this is just for my code and I was just asking other users for items.

You are correct I do use replacement:

                    line = Replace(line, "^p", "", 1, -1)
                    line = Replace(line, "^ns", "", 1, -1)
                    line = Replace(line, "^n", "", 1, -1)

You are correct the middle line did not exist in the previous version and that's where I got my s from.

here is the only thing I can tell you for sure then, it works for me and my program so the data is consistent.

I said this has no bearing on ANY in game code and I thought maybe I found something (which you proved incorrect).

There is only ^ns on the type of items I showed you, you can draw your own conclusions, I just needed a marker to correct incoming data. For me the ^ns was a gift from the LUA gods.

["itemLink"] = "|H0:item:533:30:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|hsanded oak^ns|h"
["itemLink"] = "|H0:item:794:30:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|hrawhide^ns|h"
["itemLink"] = "|H0:item:803:30:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|hsanded maple^ns|h"
["itemLink"] = "|H0:item:818:30:46:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|hrough birch^ns|h"
["itemLink"] = "|H0:item:46131:30:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|hKresh Fiber^ns|h"

Feel free to draw your own conclusion - I just pointed out a pattern I saw and it works for me.

All I wanted to do was get a few more items from users of GSA before the update.

My new version works fine, I made the necessary changes and that's all I was looking to do.

Now maybe someone can figure out why only raw crafting items have that ^ns ... maybe it's useful for something. There is no denying there is a pattern.

-d